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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
No, ASA does not address substances that are applied to the hands but will not transfer to the ball... hence the reason when facing Male pitchers, ASA doesnt have the rocks to stick to the rule book.. making it unclear.
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The penalty is for applying a foreign substance to the ball. Those who use GG do so by applying it to the ball. FP pitchers will inject, yes, inject GG into their glove so it will ooze out onto the ball. It is not colorless, so it does appear on the ball. ASA addresses this issue.
As far as the hands, ASA also addresses application of a substance to the hands in the same rule. The only thing allowed to be applied is powdered resin. Unless GG is found to be a powdered resin, it is not allowed.
AFAIC, the licking of the fingers should be dropped from the rule. There is nothing gained by a pitcher who wets their fingers and goes to the ball without wiping them off.
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Why yes, I do. I pay my 40 bucks a year for ASA folks to fly into okieville and do just that. In fact, the new GIMMICKS are far more important to address than changing rules IMO.
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And when present rules do not apply, I would agree. Why do you think ASA uses the term "resin" insted of "rosin"? Many rules are intentionally vague to cover as many bends in a rule. BTW, your belief of paying for the council is not true, at least not in this area.
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In between goofing with batter box sizes, changing wording of rules when ASA doesnt want them enforced differently (but word it differently)... I'm thinking the ASA could squeeze in some time to address these "gimmicks" and clarify unclear things.
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Most of the issues you find on this and other boards are more often local UICs failing to provide the correct information and interpretations they are given. Perfect example would be the poster who prior to last year noted that his UIC told them to continue to call the "about to receive" on OBS instead of possession because he just didn't believe ASA meant to make that change.
Yes, sometimes things do not work out and are corrected. It happens and is usually the result of folks on the voting council not paying attention to the suggestion of the staff umpires. They look at the proposal and think it must be a good idea unless someone speaks out against it. Quite often, they just don't realize the repercussions of some proposed changes.