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Originally Posted by fonzzy07
We were playing OB (same as majors if my initials are wrong) rules just incase this matters.
The pitcher pitches the ball it hits the dirt and comes up and hits my player. The umpire calls the pitch a ball. I then left the dugout calmy to ask if the player was hit by the ball and the umpire said yes. I then asked why he did not get to take first base. The umpire said because the ball was dead once it hit the ground. This did not make sense. And I admit I do not know the rules of baseball well, and being a basketball official there is nothing I hate more then having a coach pretend to know the rules, so I said if the ball is dead then why can a runner advance on a ball that hits the dirt and rolls to the backstop. Or why if my batter would have swung at that pitch would it have been a strike. He then said "Shut up and go sit down before your night is done"
My first question is was the official right about the call?
My bigger question has nothing to do with the rule, I understand officials in general sometimes get rules wrong. However I felt by his languge he was unprofessional. How or a better question is should I file some kind of report with the league on this umpire for the professionalism. I could really care less about the actual call. I just asked so I would know for next time
Thanks.
P.S. I never once raised my voice at the umpire, never got in his face, and said only what I mentioned above so I do not feel like I was out of place But if i was out of line I would like to know that too.
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You are obviously dealing with a Smitty, with an attitude.
Talk to your league commissioner. Depending on the league and the commissioner it may or may not have an impact.
To answer your question a ball that hits a batter is a dead ball always. The batter is awarded 1B unless the batter tried to get hit or did nothing to prevent it, or if he was swinging at it at the time he was hit in which case it's a strike. If he hits the pitch on the bounce over the fence it's a home run, or if he hits it on the bounce and is thrown out at 1B he is out. If he hits it on the bounce and pops it up and it is caught he is out. If he tips it on the bounce with a 2 strike count and it goes directly to the catcher's mitt and is caught he is out. If he swings and misses a bouncer with a 2 strike count the catcher must tag him with the ball or throw him out at 1B unless 1B is occupied with less than 2 outs.