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Mark T.,
Well, I am thinking that if the defender's contact with the ball is anything longer than a quick strike, then we have to call a held ball.
If the defender has enough time to "power push" the ball handler off balance and to the floor, let's jump it, cuz the ball handler cannot/will not release it.
I just can't call a foul on the defender; unless, I already have the held ball and he continues pushing... then we have something.

mick [/B][/QUOTE]I agree fully with mick.I think he's covered all the possible scenarios with logical answers.The one thing that you can't have is a personal foul on the defender.