[RPatrino]

Tibear, I think the problem is this statement, at least for me: "I think we can all agree that umpire will probably declare R2 is out for abandoning basepath". I can't agree that R2 should be called out for running out of the baseline, because I don't know which baseline he established.

Now, as far as using the correct terminology, that is very important in discussions regarding rules and how you interpret them. I would rather use a incorrect term here in this forum, take the heat for it amoungst friends and LEARN from it so I don't make the same mistake with a fire breathing coach in a real situation.

I learned a great deal starting out by having 'pre-game' meetings with my partners after every game. These were no holds barred at times, where I had to defend my actions on the field, whether it be a bad call, poor positioning, or a missed responsibility. These learning opportunities don't occur much now days, we rush to the game and rush right home.

This forum takes the place of those learning opportunities, don't waste them by arguing. Ask the questions, listen to the answers, take what you need, leave the rest and say thanks for the input.