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Originally Posted by TXMike
I do not want to make a cheap call on a bat because that could bring with it yet another flag. A muff is a muff and a bat is a bat. It defintiely needs to be a bat to be called a bat. In principle I do not think B should be held responsible for being hit by a ball that was already muffed by A. Problem is that if A muffs and then B tries to play the ball but muffs do we exempt that muff also? It would have to be narrowly defined someway, perhaps another definition of what touching is.
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R muffing the ball after K muffed it would not be considered "muffing it into R" in NF, so if that happened, we would definitely have K in possession at the end of the down so NO PSK. In NCAA we don't have a problem either cuz they do not have the "muffed into R" rule. Muffing it into R in NF would be a muff by K that then touched R, but not if R muffed it. By definition, a muff and a touch are different in NF, so I we would not "exempt" R's muff if it occured.