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Originally Posted by TussAgee11
OP: asks question
GarthB gives correct ruling and rule that is relevent.
tibear adds pointless drivel to a question that wasn't asked.
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Not knowing the history of the poster in the OP (their first post), I wanted to make sure they didn't infer from Garth's response that force tags at other bases were somehow treated differently then the play at first. As indicated the wording is slightly different when the play is at first but the end result is exactly the same. Not a timing play.
By adding the information about the other bases, it covered the difference between force and timing plays on all of the bases.
Can you show me how with two outs and a runner on third, the play is treated any differently if the BR is tagged before getting to first or R1 or R2 being tagged before they get to their next base? The call is EXACTLY the same, it is NOT a timing play. Yes, they are called something different but the outcome is EXACTLY the same.
I find that the more information you give novices the more confused they get. (Some umpires included, on occasion myself included). I for one would like the rulebook remove the wording for BR not reaching first and simply the rules by making it a force situation. Then every base is treated exactly the same.
Same with the wording for Infield Fly. It bothers me to know end when they say with runners on first and second or first, second and third. Simply eliminate the first, second and third because if we have the bases loaded by definition we have runners at first and second. Make the rule as simple as possible and there is a better chance that everyone will understand.
There I feel better.
