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Originally Posted by bwbuddy
I agree with all of you, but am still a bit of a devil's advocate when it comes to the wording of the rules. If the coach showed me the section of the ASA book that I outlined above, it would be difficult to argue (s/he could care less what I read on a discussion board). Here's my concerns:
a) In 8.7.J, item 3 my first post, the word "intentionally" is used in reference to a thrown ball. In items 1 and 2, the word "intentionally" is not used, which, right or wrong, leads to the belief that intention is not needed.
b) In OBR under the same section, it specifically mentions
that if the runner is on base when a crash of this type occurs, he will not be called out. However, no such exception is mentioned in ASA.
Just trying to anticipate what may come up (and probably being over-paranoid).
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Don't give a damn about baseball rules, and if you are going to be working softball, you need to separate the two games. If you cannot, you may want to reconsider working softball until you have had the opportunity to attend a clinic or two. (Those in hell must have just felt a slight chill, I just suggested someone not work softball!)
You need a new ASA rule book, you are citing old rules which have been changed. The word intentional no longer exists in 8.7.J.1-3.
In softball, the base is a haven for the runner who can only be forced to leave it when the batter becomes a batter-runner which forces the runner to advance to the next base. The ASA book is the rule in it's whole and cannot be parsed by sentence or paragraph. As the umpire, you must know the rules, rules supplements, attend the appropriate clinics and schools EVERY year. Each compliments the other and provides the umpire with the proper guidance.