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Originally Posted by jkumpire
I appreciate the reply Steve.....
But, the BR interfered with a play that caused the ball to become dead. Because the ball is dead he can't go to 1B. So how is he not out? He caused the INF, 2 are not out, so R3 is by rule out on the INF right?
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No! That's true if the batter were still the batter....he's not a batter any longer.
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If you don't call it this way, then you give the offense an extra out. There is no situation in the rule book that matches it, since everyone assumes the BR is trying to do something to not be out ont he play. In this play, the BR is giving herself up to try and help the runner score.
I can grasp what you are saying, I just think your applying the rules the wrong way.
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The INT
itself caused the dead ball. Who said the BR wasn't out? The BR (interferer) is out for his violation, R3 returns to 3B.
The BR is out because he interfered, not because he suddenly cannnot advance to 1B on a dead ball.
You seem terribly upset that R3 isn't also out on this play. I'm sorry about that, but the INT rules state that 'other runners return'. That's life, 'extra out' or not. Simply put, had this happened with 1 strike, the BR would remain at bat and R3 is out. With 2 strikes, its the other way around. Don't forget,
the defense erred by not catching the 3d strike. So, who's being 'given' an extra out now?
*chants*
He's no longer a batter...he's no longer a batter.....there's no place like home.....there's no place like home.....
You keep saying 'apply the rules the wrong way,' but where are YOUR cites for calling out the BR for not immediately running to 1B on the D3K? Or why you keep calling her/him a batter (and trying to apply BI rules) when s/he is clearly now a BR? I'm not trying to be over-argumentative here, but this "it just don't seem right to me" stuff has no place in an otherwise-excellent situation and rules discussion (this is a GREAT topic to hash out
) We gotta bring the rules/cites to get it right, regardless of how we 'feel' about it.