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Originally Posted by Ch1town
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I'm not saying that it helps me currently, but when I began finding my way (transitioning from a ref to an official) that philosophy helped me understand how to make those calls correctly.
80/20 won't allow you to make this mistake per your statement: "If the defender did nothing illegal (got to the ball first) the contact can be severe and I am not calling a foul".
Really?
The defensive player runs and flies toward the shooter clearly blocking the shot. The defensive mans momentum carries him into the shooter who has returned to the floor and knocks the shooter to the floor. This is a foul and needs to be called.
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Then you need to read Rule 4-27-1 which says:
"The mere fact that contact occurs does not constitute a foul. When 10 players are moving rapidly in a limited area, some contact is certain to occur."
Then you need to read 4-27-2 which says:
"Contact which occurs unintentionally in an effort by an opponent to reach a loose ball or contact which may result when opponents are in equally favorable positions to perform normal defensive and offensive movements, should not be considered illegal, even though the contact may be severe."
Then you need to read 4-27-3 which says:
"Similarly, contact which does not hinder the opponent from participating in a normal defensive and offensive movements should be considered incidental."
I am using the wording of the rulebook. Now you are using a philosophy that does not even go along with the wording of the rulebook or based on what is reality. How do you measure 80% contact?
Also you may feel that needs to be called, I feel it does not. And nothing you say is going to change my mind. Why, because I have come to the conclusion based on my experience that I have almost never seen a block without some contact. So if a defender makes a block, the defender better have purposely done something to get a foul called on them if they got to the ball first. If I use your logic, then every time someone goes to the basket and is defended hard, we have to call a foul. Sorry, that is not very good officiating from my point of view.
Peace