wow...on the news just now...a woman was arrested for blowing a .47 for a DWI...set a state record...and was out of jail 24 hours later, driving again...and had another DWI and another accident.
I think maybe she was the UIC who made some of these rulings cited in some of these posts.
I did baseball for a number of years back in the olden days (let's say 1970-1992), some of it at a pretty high level. And, yes, in OBR as long as the 3B runner touches home and B/R touches first, the game is over regardless of the actions of the other runners.
BUT...that's OBR. The fastpitch I work (ASA, Juco using NCAA rules, NFHS) require all runners to advance.
As several have pointed out in various ways, the batter is awarded first base on a base on balls without liability to be put out. It's an award, and the ball remains live (talking fastpitch here).
The rule book is also clear that the batter-runner must advance to first base because it is an award...and shall be declared out if they enter the team area or other DBT.
8-7-U says the runner is OUT "When a runner abandons a base and enters the team area or leaves live ball territory."
I would vigorously oppose any move to not force all runners to complete their obligation to advance. I have always been opposed to the OBR understanding that R1 and R2 don't have to advance. I have been opposed to efforts to eliminate the pitches for an intentional base on balls. In fact, a girl hit a triple during such an attempt in my game Monday.
Without going into some societal diatribe about obligations...I feel all runners must advance one base.
What I was looking for as much as anything else was advic such as that so eloquently presented by Mike. If anyone else would like to chime in on the mechanics of that situation, please, feel free.
And thank you to everyone for your contributions. Even the stuff that is wrong helps us all understand.
