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Old Fri Apr 13, 2007, 08:45am
AtlUmpSteve AtlUmpSteve is offline
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Originally Posted by Dakota
NFHS doesn't give a rats behind about legal for ASA Championship Play. They require proof of passing the 2004 BPS. Stop refuting that by saying "legal for championship play". It doesn't matter.
Your logic escapes me. Let's try this. I am visiting you in a different state, and bring my dog.

1) Your area requires dogs to be licensed and to have had a current rabies shot.
2) My dog has a tag showing his license in my home county, which states that it can't be issued without proof of a current rabies shot.
3) My conclusion is that this is proof my dog has a current rabies shot.
4) Your conclusion, based on this statement, is that I still must show you a copy of the vet's certificate?


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Originally Posted by Dakota
All ASA needs to do is make a simple declarative statement: "All bats with the 2000 mark have passed the 2004 BPS unless they are on the non-approved list." ASA has made no such claim.
Agreed that they have not used precisely that language. But, it sure seems to follow the statements that have been made, following the logical progression that 1) bats must pass the 2004 standard to be legal (leaving out the words for championship play for you), 2) if a bat has a 2000 cert and is not on the non-approved list it is legal, then, 3) how in the he!! can you conclude anything else but??

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Originally Posted by Dakota
And your challenge is a ridiculous one to make to umpires. We, by and large, do not purchase bats. You might as well make a statement that nowhere on earth does it ever get above 90 degrees, and then challange all Eskimos to produce proof otherwise by naming a day where it did where they live.

I have exactly one bat that my DD used years ago. It has a 2000 stamp. It is a Louisville Slugger c555. Look it up if you want to.
I'm sorry. Did I ask you about bats that you, or any other umpire, owns? Or did I ask you about the multitude of bats that you pulled from NFHS games in the past months, following your policy of initially declining bats with 2000 certs? All of you who follow that policy have now cumulatively pulled how many thousands of bats by now? What about the past three years, since that July 2003 directive? Why can't even one of you name one bat which, when compared to the approved bat list, wasn't there (but also wasn't on the non-approved list)?
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