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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
Okay, this one comes under N.S.S. The rule you cite allows the umpire who believes (uh-oh, here comes that intent thing again) call the runner closest to home out if s/he believed it prevented a double play. R1 is NOT the runner closest to home. R1 has scored and is no longer a participant in the play.
Another N.S.S.
The rule you are citing (retired running) refers to drawing a throw.
And you get the 2nd out, it just isn't R1.
Again, the "continuing to run" is not applicable as it isn't drawing a throw
Again, we are back to N.S.S. That is exactly the answer given by ASA on the test. At the time of the INT the runner closest to home is R2.
Sorry, but it's only a good example of running a thread in circles with extraneous and irrelevant information while demonstrating a lack in rules applications.
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Okay, this one comes under N.S.S. The rule you cite allows the umpire who believes (uh-oh, here comes that intent thing again) call the runner closest to home out if s/he believed it prevented a double play. R1 is NOT the runner closest to home. R1 has scored and is no longer a participant in the play.
R1 is the closest player to the plate since the interference(running after being declared out) happened before R1 crossed the plate.
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I When an infield fly is DECLARED.
Another N.S.S.
N.S.S. what?
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In this case the batter/runner by continuing to run can be called for interference since the fielder is near the base line.
The rule you are citing (retired running) refers to drawing a throw.
Cant draw a throw when the ball is in the air...how do you explain that?
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Whether the ball is fair or foul is immaterial to the penalty...Remember the case cited said interferernce to break up a double play:
And you get the 2nd out, it just isn't R1.
R1 cannot score on a foul ball and he cannot score when the interference(runner declared out continues to run) happens before R1 scores.
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If the ball is fair the already out batter was guilty of interference, by definition, when he continued to run after being declared out
Again, the "continuing to run" is not applicable as it isn't drawing a throw.
See above.
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...and, if foul, would be guilty of interference by 8-2-f . In either case the umpire would be justifed in calling the runner nearest the plate out.
Again, we are back to N.S.S. That is exactly the answer given by ASA on the test. At the time of the INT the runner closest to home is R2.
The ASA test ignored an obvious infield fly rule....which means the test in it's narrowest sense is correct......but not in any real life experience under the same conditions...a distinction which contines to elude you.
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I think this is a good example of how answering a narrowly drawn question, while getting the correct answer, does not necessarily mean that, under the same circumstances in a real game, there would not be a reason to make another ruling.
Sorry, but it's only a good example of running a thread in circles with extraneous and irrelevant information while demonstrating a lack in rules applications.
If you say so.
But I disagree.
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