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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
How I understood it from the 06 Clinic was for all intents and purposes the base becomes one base once the B/R situation was resolved and my hand out from 06 seems to indicate this as well.
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It is my understanding that it becomes one base for ANY R, including B-R becomes R as a result of having reached 1B. Ref: Rule 8.2.M.6 Rule 8.2.M.7 and Rule 8.2.M.8.
It would probably make more sense to refer to the player who was a B-R, and has passed 1B and play has not yet ended as R0 (zero).
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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
ie.. from EZ Teams scenario - R1@1B - Liner caught by diving F3 who lands in foul territory. Can they use orange to make the out on R1 tagging up?
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If that is not allowed by rule, which I agree strictly written rules (and common sense) do not allow it..
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By rule, I have an OUT here. As both defense is entitled to use the whole base while making a play on R; just as R is entitled to use the whole base in baserunning. Again, ref: Rule 8.2.M.6 Rule 8.2.M.7 and Rule 8.2.M.8.
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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
but then why does 8.2.M.4 exist at all?
How do you have a "definition force" at 1B?
You can have a "layman" force at 1B.
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8.2.M.3 requires that defense must use white and B-R must use colored portion.
IMHO 8.2.M.4 should have been an EXCEPTION to 8.2.M.3 rather than a separate rule.
Without the EXCEPTION (aka 8.2.M.4) we would have a rule
requiring B-R to be in a postion that could
potentially interfere with the opportunity to put B-R out.
I don't know if this was the reason the rule was written as I was not there, but this is what makes the most logical case to me.