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Originally Posted by rainmaker
If lead felt he/she needed to make this call, he/she would need to see enough between to see that the defender had arms clearly straight up, or straight out. In the OP, that's pretty obvious, but in a simliar play where the defender's hands might not be in view from behind, ref wouldn't know if there was some hand action prior to the torso contact.
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True...but in this play on the video??? L could certainly have made that call without having to see between the players...that's a great rule of thumb (being able to see between), but it is by no means an absolute and this video gives a very clear picture of an instance when there is no need to see between...