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Originally Posted by Old School
If you try to go CHARGE, you don't have enough time and distance to make it, imo. NFHS 4-27-5.
What I mean here and I stated my position very clearly earlier in the thread. You don't have enough information by NFHS rules and standards. They want you to watch the feet of the defense to determine if he's set, which nobody at this point in the game is going to be watching anybody feet from the Lead position. You are suppose to watch from the waste up. Even if you determine that defense has LGP, how can you say honestly that the offensive player hasn't use that last step when we can barely determine from watching the damn tape afterwards. There's no way as an official at real time speed you can determine that on the offensive player. So you reason by watching the defense along, that the defender got set, charge, when you don't even know the status of the offense! This is a rulebook call, not a game time deicision call!
If your position is I don't care about the offense because I know the defense is set. That is not an intelligent decision. Again, this is a rulebook call. You have completely disregarded the offense in this play. By definition of the rules, we are supposed to create a balance of fair play. My position is simply this. The only defendable call the official can make here is a block. Anything else is a guess. We might as well remove rule 4-23-4b because you never looked at the offensive player to determine if this was true. There wasn't enough time.
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New to this conversation. RookieDude, GREAT FREAKING CALL! As has been stated, it could have gone either way, but you made the correct call.
Wow, OldSchool, you sir are a freaking dumba$$! I'll try this approach with you then since you are so opposed to watching the feet and only watch from the waist (notice the correct spelling of waist). BTW, how do you call a travel if you don't watch the feet? In any case, where did the contact occur on the defense? It looked to me like he took the contact right smack dab in the middle of the chest. Are you telling me that the defense was that fast that he came from out of position (where contact may have occured on the shoulder or arm if at all) and got that position after the shooter went airborn? I don't know of many, if any, NBA players that can move that quick let alone ANY high school player.
One other question for you, do you not ever get tape from your games? I know you only call rec ball, but figured you might get someone to come tape your championship experience. You've never made a call on the court and then asked someone else, that saw it live or on tape, what they thought of the call? It didn't sound at all like RookieDude was questioning whether he got the call right at the time, just what we thought about it.