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Originally posted by Self
This was said 30 posts ago. That I felt the player has established control. The argument was he has to be holding or dribbling. You just agreed that hand under ball establishes control. Bob Jenkins never said he was holding it, never siad the ball came to rest.
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Self,if you've got last year's rulebook,look up the POE on "palming".Note the sentence--Quote-"the key to officiating this play consistently and correctly is to determine if the ball has come to rest(4-15-4B)"-Unqoute.If the ball comes to rest,then the dribbling and travelling rules are now applicable.If it doesn't come to rest,you don't apply them.If the hand comes under the ball,of course you got the dribbler holding the ball at rest.Otherwise,you can never call palming/carrying the ball.Same concept is used in the other sitch.If the ball comes to rest in the hand,you now have player control.If it doesn't come to rest,NO player control.It's not semantics.It's written in the rules,and not 2-3 either.
Btw,that was my last gasp on this one.Have fun!
[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Feb 25th, 2002 at 08:47 AM]