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Old Mon Feb 19, 2007, 06:27pm
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Originally Posted by btaylor64
1) I know my way might not be the right way either, but I just want to do whats closest to being fair for both teams, and giving the offensive team the ball another 28 ft. or so up the court with little to no time off the clock does not seem fair. I'm open to other ideas.

2) And how do we have definite knowledge with a count? The only thing that keeps proper time is the clock (when its running). I would have just as good a shot at guessing how much time came off the clock and getting it correct, in contrast to counting, because everyones count is usually slower than the real time that elapses. Yes it would be close but it would not be definite. Would it?
1) Here's an idea. Just follow the appropriate rule book and don't make up your own rules. Read NCAA rule 5-3AR120. It states The referee cannot correct this official timer's mistake unless he or she knows exactly how much time elapsed while the game clock was stopped." There is NO provision for a do-over either. Under NCAA rules, you could use the monitor to determine definite knowledge. Under NFHS rules, it has to be an official's count of some kind. I guarantee that if you try to be "fair" in an NCAA or an NFHS game without following the rules, that might be your last game for a while at that level if you're found out. And if it's a D1 game, you sureasheck will be found out.


2) Your count IS definite knowledge. See case book play 5.10.2. The rulesmakers have also taken care of your count accuracy concerns in another case play--5.10.1SitB. That RULING states that "If the count was not accurate or was not made, it cannot be corrected. There is no provision for the correction of an error made in the official's accuracy in counting seconds." Again, the rules do NOT allow guessing. Ever.

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