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Originally posted by Slider
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
In one of your responses above, you state "That is not near the endline as the rules require." Please state your rule(s) reference for this statement.
Now - as to the ball "being at the disposal" phrase, to use the logic implied in your post here, not considering the ball to be "at the disposal" due to its distance from the endline, then it would follow that if the ball just came out of the basket and it just lay there with no one touching it or picking it up, you would never start your 5 second count. You know that cannot be.
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The wording of 6.1.2B "Comment" says it is the throw-in teams responsibility to secure the ball if it is near the endline.
6.1.2B also has this juicy sentence, "If the covering official judges the ball to be at the thrower's disposal, he/she starts the count and the ball becomes live."
As, I added to my post above, it makes no sense to have a live ball IB on the court for a throw-in: Can the defense pick it up (it is past the plane)?
Now, if a team does ignore an IB ball (near the end-line), I will place the ball OOB and start counting. If it is an attempt to delay (say to run out the clock), I will T them for delay.
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Slider,the last sentence of the "comment" that you are referencing states-"The covering official shall start his/her throw-in count when it is determined the ball is available".That's a very relevant statement.It goes hand-in-hand with your comments above.This casebook play is pretty clear.It states that you can have a live ball IB in this instance.The play should be called the way BBref stated.Btw,what rule allows you to T them for delay without warning them first-if you decided to go that route?
[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Feb 10th, 2002 at 08:36 PM]