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Old Sun Jan 21, 2007, 08:44am
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Originally Posted by eg-italy
1) Are you sure you'll be going to call B1's foul in this case? Won't it be a contact which has no real influence on the play?

2) In the case you are talking about, the charge is unavoidable, isn't it?
1) B1 fouled the shooter. How do you ever know that the contact had no real influence on the play? And if a player puts a shooter into the third row, does that still have no real influence on the play if the shooter makes the basket? You can also foul an airborne shooter and never move them from their path. You can hit a wrist or elbow and knock the ball loose or make the shooter miss the shot, and that won't cause the airborne shooter to come down in any different spot than the one he was originally going to come down in. And there was already a defender with LGP in that spot?

2) Yes. And the defender was there before the shooter left his feet and never moved. And the defender with legal guarding position then gets knocked down and put into the third row by the charge.

Juggling Referee originally said that there shouldn't be a foul called on a shooter who was knocked off balance or into a defender. I agree with that fully. So did you and JRut. Juggler was talking about two different situations though. This situation refers to the play where the airborne shooter is definitely fouled but his path isn't changed one bet. He said that he wouldn't call a foul in the first situation, but he would in this situation. I'm just wondering if you and Jeff are still arguing about the first situation instead of the second.
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