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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Again, grabbing the rim while the ball is in the cylinder is not a BI violation under FED and NCAA rules, and never has been.
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Thanks. I get confused by the conditions of the four articles of the definition, as some mention the cylinder and some mention the ring, but they're also talking about where the defender's hand is. I also misinterpreted "within the basket" to mean "within the cylinder".
Gotta learn how to read one of these days.