Thread: Two men down!
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2007, 03:58pm
JRutledge JRutledge is offline
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Originally Posted by Scatmaster
Situation 1. Third year official here, have a question for the more experianced. Had a situation last night B-J.V. I am trail, foul count A-9, B-2 (not that that matters, just for information) A-1 brings ball over half court, attempts pass to a-2 to his left, b-2 steps in and knocks ball into back court. a-1 and b-1 both take off after loose ball. While chasing ball down both players fall to the floor (feet got tangled, no contact between players torso or arms) a-2 recovers ball and brings ball into front court and runs play.

At half time: Sit. 1. one of the varsity officials came into locker room and asked why i hadn't called a foul when the two men went down. I told him because neither man was in an advantageous position, and I didn't deem any of the contact to be anything other than incidental. He said I was wrong, "anytime that two men go down, your calling something".
This is a judgment call. No one here saw what happen. He might have felt it was a foul, but I would not be surprised if other veterans disagreed with his position. If all players did was run into each other and fall, then I would likely call nothing. Players will run into each other and you do not have to call a foul.

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Originally Posted by Scatmaster
Situation 2. A-1 dribbles over half court, calls play, Carries ball (I think he thought about a baseball pass to a man cutting back door then changed his mind) I call the violation, we go the other way.

At Halftime: Situation 2. Same varsity official said "that was a proper carry call but why would you call it? It's a game stopper, what advantage was gained by him carring the ball out top?"
Once again this is a judgment call. Was the action very obvious (it sounds like it if he sees this from the stands)? I have no problem with the call based on what you described (which you did very well BTW). It might be a game stopper, but it was the right call because it sounded very obvious. It does not sound like you nit-picked this call in any way. Good job as far as I am concerned (by the way you described it).

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I didn't respond to his critical views of my officiating,I thanked him for his input, but didn't necessarily agree with him. Whats your thoughts?
You did the right thing. You will hear a lot of advice as your career from many veterans. You have to know when to listen and when to throw away the advice. Not all advice is good or works for you. This happens a lot at camps where one clinician thinks you did the right thing and the next clinician thinks you set back officiating for 10 years. Just take in account who is giving the advice and why they are giving the advice. Sounds to me you were on top of the plays, but that does not mean everyone will agree.

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