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Originally posted by Slider
Actually, I can come up with much stupider stuff than that
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I can hardly wait!
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Based on your reply, I'm guessing that you would have a foul on my push (you rarely answer me directly).
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Yes, I would have a foul. You're not using the jersey to push me. You're using your hand. The foul doesn't have to be "skin to skin" as you stated earlier. If you stick the ball in my chest, I'm simply going to grab it.
No, I do answer you directly. But you don't usually agree with me, so you pretend to not understand what I'm saying.
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Anyway, I was making a point:
If a body is the immediate motive force behind the actions of an object (like apparel, the ball, ect.); then the motive force, i.e., the player, is responsible for illegal contact when extending his reach thru the object.
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I guess we'll just have to disagree, unless you can't present a rule or case play.