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Old Sun Feb 03, 2002, 07:52pm
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. is offline
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Originally posted by eventnyc
An interesting situation was brought up at our local association meeting by our interpreter. Boys High School Game. Seven players, properly equipped, dressed and in the scorebook. During the game, one of the players fouls out. Official notifies the head coach and gives him his thirty seconds to replace the player. Coach tells the official that he will play with four players because the other two players are on "disciplinary probation" and he is not going to allow them to play. What do you do? I'll wait for a few posts to get your comments and then explain how our interpreter suggests we handle the situation. Back up your responses with the rule book!

I am repeating a few things that have already been said, none-the-less, under both NFHS and NCAA rules, but I will confine my remarks to NFHS Rules. Head Coach A has thirty seconds to replace A5 with either A6 or A7.

If the Head Coach A had originally stated that both A6 and A1 had become injured or sick during the course of the game, the Officials would have no choice but to err on the side of safety and let Team A continue the game with only four players. If at some later time in the game, A6 or A7 recover from their injury or illness, they can enter the game at the appropriate time.

But the Head Coach A, showing his infinite knowlege of the rules of basketball, told the Officials that A6 and A7 were on "disciplinary probation." Sorry Head Coach A, you lose, replace A5 with A6 or A7 within thirty seconds or received a technical foul (NFHS R10-S5-A1d). If Head Coach A still refuses to replace A5, he is in serious jeopardy of receiving a second technical foul (and a free all expenses paid trip to the locker room. At this point Assistant Coach A takes over as Head Coach A, and I assure you that he will replace A5 with A6 or A7 immediately.

Know let me address the OhioHSAA oddity. H.S. varsity and jr. varsity teams are limited to twenty regular season games. H.S. freshmen teams are limited to twenty games (regular season and tournament combined).

Years ago, a H.S. player was limited to twenty regular season games in a season and no more than four quarters in a day. This means that a player could play in a freshmen, jr. varsity, and varsity game in the same day as long as he/she plays no more that four quarters, and the Rules definition of an overtime period being an extension of the four quarter was strictly adhered to. If a player played in the first quarter of the freshmen game, the fourth quarter and any of the overtime periods of the jr. varsity game and the second and third quarters of the varsity game, he was done for the night. If the player played in the fourth quarter instead of the third quarter of the varsity game, the player could play in any overtime periods of the varsity game. If a player played in five quarters in a day, he was deemed to have played in two games in one day and was thus ineligible to play in postseason games and sill limited to only twenty games in a regular season.

When it was discovered that a player was playing in his/her fifth quarter of the day, he/she was immediately charged with a flagrant technical foul (NFHS R10-S3-A2).

Later the OhioHSAA changed the rules to eighty quarters in a regular season and a player could play in five quarters in a day, with overtime periods in the freshmen and jr. varsity games considered an extension of the fourth quarter of that game, and here is the kicker, the overtime periods of the varsity game are considered an extension of the player's fifth quarter of the day. Meaning a player could have played in the fourth quarter and overtime periods of the freshmen game, second and third quarters of the jr. varsity game, and the first and second quarters of the varsity game, and if the varsity game goes into overtime, the player can play in the overtime periods. If a player plays in a sixth quarter, he/she is charged with a flagrant technical foul (NFHS R10-S3-A2), the sixth quarter counts toward his eighty for the regular season (he/she still remains eligible for post-season play). If this is the player's first disqualification via flagrant foul of the season, the player is in eligible for further competition at any level until his school has played two games at the level of play at with the player was ejected. (If a player who is a freshmen receives a flagrant foul while playing in a varsity game and before the varsity team plays two games the school plays in four freshmen games and three jr. varsity games, he cannot play at any level until the varsity team plays two games.) If it is the player's second flagrant foul of the season, the player is done for the season, including post-season play.

I do not have a problem with the five quarters in a day rule, I would prefer that the definition of the extension of the fourth quarter via overtime be strictly adhered to like the OhioHSAA did in the past.
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