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Old Fri Feb 01, 2002, 01:49pm
Bfair Bfair is offline
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Cool Re: Re: You need to read the rules, Childress

Quote:
Originally posted by Carl Childress


Here are the only points I made about FED:

1. If a runner leaves a base too soon, when the ball goes dead his award will be two bases measured from the time of the pitch.

2. If the runner's position is beyond a subsequent base and the ball goes dead, he is in jeopardy of an out on appeal after he receives his award.

Do you agree those two sentences accurately reflect NFHS rules?

Whether the runner has started back or is still running forward is absolutely irrelevant to any award.
Carl, it appears your point #1 and your final sentence quoted are incorrect.
For the record, this issue was discussed with Tim Stevens in a private forum.
Tim, I believe, is a writer for eUmpire and a Fed interpreter for state of Washington.

Tim advised:
  1. The Fed award rule is written the way the Fed wants it
  2. The award on a runner needing to retouch a base is, indeed,
    based on the runner's actions at the time the ball goes dead
    , that is
    • If the runner is attempting return, the award would be 2 bases from time of pitch
    • if the runner is not attempting return, the award would be 2 bases from runner's location at time of throw.

  3. This would still be an appeal play if the runner were on or beyond his advance base yet still returned illegitimately to retouch 1B before accepting his award
  4. If not appealed, the correct award would stand
  5. Any illegitimate return should result in the appeal being upheld and the runner declared out
  6. If the fielder were to "intentionally" throw the ball to dead ball territory while R1 was beyond his advance base, then R1 would still be required to return and retouch 1B, but his return is now legitimate and any appeal should not be upheld.
  7. While the Fed is aware of some errors needing correction for next year due to being overlooked in this year's changes, the award is not one of those


Hmmmm..............
So it seems at least for this point in time that Tim has provided us the proper way to determine making an award in Fed, and it is, indeed, based upon the runner's actions at the time the ball becomes dead, as I earlier reported.


Freix





[Edited by Bfair on Feb 1st, 2002 at 01:06 PM]
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