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Originally Posted by Old School
I see you have made this statement several times that I do not understand what is being discussed. I will tell you this. I am talking speifically about the incident that occurred in NY. I do not care about some other topic that took place at some other point in time. We can not address all the issues that are wrong with sports in this one discussion. However, like I was telling my son who has multiple problems with his vechicle. We have to fix these problems one step at a time. We can't skip and go to problem B before correcting problem A. I'm staying focus on the one problem, you want to make this a general problem, where all kind of other intangibles come into the mix. Go right ahead, I can't stop you. This is one of the very reasons why we can't move forward in society because before we get the one problem solved, we are bringing other problems into the arguement.
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The issue in NY was just that an incident. You have talked about how it means in the bigger picture. You have talked about how kids are going to behave as a result of this fight. Considering what I have seen at games in my state and surrounding areas, this incident was tame. The very same night of this NBA brawl there was a fight outside the school where I officiated a game while the game was going on or when the fight broke out. No kids saw the tape of the NY-Denver game at that point. BTW, the game involved the two sons of Michael Jordan (they were not involved but it is ironic that we are talking about the NBA). I can also think of 3 incidents where games were cancelled and even one team was suspended from participating in any basketball event for a year as a result of an incident during after a playoff game. So there is violence all over the place and this NBA game was not the first and it will not be the last. I heard about the Knick-Nuggets brawl on the way home in my car as police were whipping by me to break up a fight outside of a Catholic school. Now was this fight a reflection of the Catholic religion?
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Originally Posted by Old School
Is the black community point what got you obsessed here? Is that what you are trying to defend without directly talking about it?
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I was trying to figure out why you even made this statement at all? What did some NBA game have to do anything in the Black community? Does a fight in the NHL reflect on people from other countries or Canada? Do NASCAR fights and comments reflect on the southern community? Does a MLB fight reflect on the Latin/Hispanic and rich suburban kids?
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Originally Posted by Old School
Yes, I did bring it up because I stand for a better community, a better way of life for our African American brothers. I will admit I viewed this brawl thru bias eyes. My arguement is this, we got 10 brothers playing a game they love, at Madison Square Garden of all places, getting paid, getting all the limelight, why the hell are they fighting one another when the game is obviously over? In this case, it was pretty sh!t. They turned a professional game of bb into a back yard street game. This is not what we want, this is not hockey, and I blame that on Isiah.
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I guess rich folks that go to Cubs games and got into a fight with the Dodger players at Wrigley field is a direct reflection on the people in Wrigleyville (which btw is not an African-American Community by any means) and all Cubs fans that attend games. Considering that there are not many African-Americans that go to baseball games at all and definitely not to Cubs games, I guess I should make some assumptions about the people I saw in that melee? And these were not rich athletes throwing things at the L.A. Dodgers. These were every day regular people who happened to be at a baseball game during the summer.
I am tired of when Black people do something it is about our community and not about the individual. These players are individuals and if they got into a fight there are many examples of the same behavior around the sporting world. If you cannot tell your son that, then maybe he needs another role model in his life to teach him how to be a man.
Peace