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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 11:21pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
People get treated unprofessionally everynight in the NBA, they wolf on each other all night, every night. That is the nature of the business and these athletes get paid a lot of money to deal with just that. And to boot, they all get there moments in the spotlight too! I totally disagree with your position here. Got an idea. These athletes make enough money to go hire a psychiatrist to help them deal with their frustrations.
Why are you so focused on the money they make? Are you jealous? Are you mad that you did not put in the time to make that kind of money? I am not sure what the money they make has much to do with this at all. This is a league where there are things that go on in the league just like the NFL, NASCAR, the NHL or Major League Baseball. Just listen to veterans talk about rookies and what they think when conflict happens in any of these sports. There are things expected in all professional sports leagues that you would not understand until you are there. I know there are things expected at the NCAA level that are not expected at the HS level and if those "professional" expectations are violated, it can cause serious conflict. And the main people making the money are the coaches (at least legally).

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Originally Posted by Old School
No doubt here, I agree totally. But Isiah is not acting in the roll of a player anymore. He is acting now as a coach. No doubt he has earned the right, but also, what comes with that right is an even greater responsibility. I'm sure you can acknowledge that. Case in point: when I coached, and yes I coached men. The opposition had a superstar come in from out of town that we had no answer for. He was lighting us up. Late in the 2nd half I called a TO and told my team this guy is killing us, we got to stop him, if not we're going to lose this game. My big guy who went about 6'6 -255lbs plus. When said superstar came down the lane for another layup, my big guy cold-cocked him! Fist right to the body, put him on his back. I immediately called another TO to clarified what I meant. My point is, it was so easy for me as a coach to send the wrong message to my players. They picked this up without me even saying it! You have to be very careful with how you phrase things, your disposition, everything, when you are a leader of young over energized men. Along with great power comes an even greater responsibility. I want to win but not that way.
You have the right to your opinion but so do I. Unless you coached, played or was a front office person in the NBA, I think knowing what responsibility someone has at least for me falls on deaf ears. You can give me all the war-stories of what you did when you coached, it still is not going to change my opinion and frankly I am not trying to change your opinion either.

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Originally Posted by Old School
Of course I remember the old days of the NBA when Darrel Dr.Dunk Dawkins squared off with Marcus Lucas center court. I'd like to think that we have progressed beyond those days of handling our issues in a public forum like that. Don't you think there is enough violence in the black community now. We don't need our bestowed upon NBA roll models relating to this type of behavior on the TV to handle their differences. Isiah was wrong to provoke such a thing and the sad thing is, I don't even think he gets it. I know you don't....
First of all I do not know what this has to do with the Black community. Several weeks ago there was a fight at a basketball game not even close to what happen in Detroit about 2 years ago, but it took place oversees. There were flares thrown by fans and total chaos and violence all over the place. The last time I checked, I did not see any Black people in the stands during this that display of violence. I think there is too much violence in all societies and around the world. And as someone that grew up in a Black Family, as much as I admired many athletes, they were not my role models. Of course there was a part of me that wanted to be like a Willie Stargell or a Hank Aaron or a Jackie Robinson, it was not because of what they only did on a field. I admired those people because of what the way they carried themselves but my biggest role models were people I saw every day. I was a kid when Charles Barkley made his "role model" commercial with NIKE and I can tell you I was in 100% agreement with his position.

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