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Originally posted by doghead on 03-14-2000 03:18 PM
Following the jump between A1 and B1 to start the first quarter, the jump ball is touched by A2 and it then goes out of bounds. .... The alternating-possession procedure is established and the arrow is set toward's A's basket when a player of Team B is handed the ball for the throw-in. So, if I understand this correctly, even though the control was momentary on A2's part, it was enough to establish control.
Since A2 only "touched" the ball before it went out, that did NOT constitute control for purposes of the arrow. That's why in the ruling you quoted, B gets the ball for the throw-in (because A2 caused it to go OOB) and A gets the arrow--control first occurs when the ref hands B the ball for the throw-in. If A2 had taken a legal dribble or grabbed it momentarily, but then lost it OOB, then he would have been considered to have control. As your second post implies, team B would then get BOTH the arrow (which technically is set as soon as A2 dribbled or grabbed the ball) and the throw-in (because the ball went OOB). The only way team B gets both, though, is if A2 actually established control before the ball went out, just as if he had dribbled around for a few seconds before losing it OOB. Make sense?