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Old Fri Nov 10, 2006, 07:45pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
If a starter gets injured in warmups, you have to waive a rule too in order to get a sub in for him without penalty. Again, what's the difference- philosophically speaking?
In the case of the injured starter you are not waiving a rule, only a penalty, and you are doing so according to another rule which states to do that. So you are actually enforcing a rule which trumps another one, not waiving a rule at all.

If the designated starter is not ill or injured and the team may still make a change and replace him with an eligible team member according to the rules, provided that they are willing to accept the prescribed penalty. There is no rule which specifically bars this other team member from entering the game at this point.

In the substitution scenario, there is a rule which specifically prevents this team member from becoming a player at this time. There is no penalty provided if the team wishes to break it. They simply are not permitted to do it.

The difference in philosophy is the same as wearing an illegal jersey or an illegal undershirt. The first one can be done at the expense of a technical foul, the second may not be worn period and there is no penalty provided in the rules. The kid simply can't play.

In my opinion, that is the difference.

This raises an interesting question. When one of the five players for Team A fouls out in the fourth quarter, the only other team member on the bench is a kid who is wearing an illegal undershirt. For whatever reason, the kid refuses to remove the item when both he and the coach are told the he may not participate while wearing it. Is this team member eligible or not? Do you continue the game with four players for Team A? Do you assess a technical foul for failure to replace a DQ'd player within 30 seconds? Do you then forfeit the game when the coach says that he still won't be replacing the disqualified player?
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