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Originally Posted by just another ref
The whole argument on this thread is about whether to count the basket or not. The only reason not to count it would be that the ball was declared dead when it hit the wire, which was an out-of-bounds violation. The violation was not called, the ball was not dead. The basket counts. End of story.
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Oh...I didn't realize we had to stick to only 1 topic per thread. My apologies, but...
...do you agree that a violation occurs even though there was no whistle? Or is not a violation until the whistle sounds?
That's all I wanted to know, thanks