[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Yeahbut I can't see where that has anything to do with a violation. It just says we're allowed to determine when the ball becomes dead.

Is there something else in there you forgot to copy/paste?

The whole argument on this thread is about whether to count the basket or not. The only reason not to count it would be that the ball was declared dead when it hit the wire, which was an out-of-bounds violation. The violation was not called, the ball was not dead. The basket counts. End of story.