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Old Thu Oct 19, 2006, 02:45am
Nevadaref Nevadaref is offline
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First, Kajun, you are right about the T for the excessive time-out. This can be penalized until the officials leave the floor at the end of the game and end their jurisdiction.

Second, I believe that Chuck Elias gave the correct ruling on the second warning snafu. No foul was called, so no FTs are merited.

My comments to Kajun's proposed correctable error argument are in RED.
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Originally Posted by Kajun Ref N Texas
Reread the rule and list the specific listed correctable errors and you'll find it fits there perfectly.

You are all giving me the reasons I am wrong about 2-10-1 without showing me anything authoritative about the rule. I'll do the best that I can. However, this is a grey area and I am no authority, so you can either accept my decision or continue to support your own. It's up to you.

Let me restate,

2-10-1 "...Officials may correct an error if a rule is inadvertently set aside and results in: a. Failure to award a merited free throw.

It seems pretty simple to me.

Was a rule inadvertently set aside? YES

Was there failure to award a merited free throw? NO
There was a failure to charge a technical foul. Under these circumstances, the referee should have called a FOUL, but instead mistakenly charged a WARNING for delay. What is the proper penalty for a warning? Just a notation in the scorebook. There are NO FTs awarded for a warning. So no merited FTs went unawarded. This is an officials' mistake not a correctable error. We have lots of those documented in the book and nothing can be done about them other than a "Sorry coach, we screwed up."

Correctable Error. I don't believe so.

Not only do I believe it is within the letter of the rule, I also believe it is within the spirit of the rule. What was the FED's intention? Two free throws on the second delay. Probably is the within spirit of the rule, but I don't think the letter. There are many instances in the NFHS rules in which the officials goof and one team gets screwed. (One example is giving the ball to the wrong team for a throw-in. Once it gets touched inbounds--too late. See Case Book play 7.5.2 Sit B) It is unfortunate, but human error is part of the game.

Here is the biggest reason that it should be corrected. We screwed it up and have an oppurtunity to correct it. To not correct it, gives an advantage to the offending team. If you're going to give the second warning the FED wants it to result in two FTs. If we ignore the fact that we can correct this error by rule we are cheating the non-offending team. See my last comment.
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