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Originally Posted by Tim C
Steve, I work at inner-city schools where the screen behind home plate is from 10 to 12 FEET behind the dish.
In games played by shaving aged players I would never consider telling someone they could not stand there or anywhere else in deadball terriitory.
I find it very odd to me that any umpire, working big boy ball, would even consider telling fans to move.
I just don't "get" your position.
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I too work inner-city schools, in some pretty rough, gang infested areas. Some of the backstops are even closer than 10 from the plate. Oddly enough, I usually encounter the least amount of trouble in these games.
Most often, it is the ritchie-rich schools in the 'burbs that produce the worst of all.
I did not say that I told fans to move. I said that on less than 5 occasions, I've had to tell a troublemaker (not a valid fan) to either be quiet, or move into the spectator area.
You can bet that if there was some crazed lunatic hanging over the dugout of a MLB game, and he was ragging on a player, that security would be right there removing said individual. I see it happen at the old ballpark frequently.
We, unfortunately, do not have security services working our HS games. We are the security, because there is nobody else there that will do it. I have rarely seen an A.D. at baseball games, and the coaches have no jurisdiction with the public crowd.
Good for you that you would never do what I have done on less than 5 occasions. You weren't there, so you really can't legitimately comment on my particular situations. Were it just some fan chirping about my strike zone, that would have been okay. But these were extreme cases, in which some individual decides to use profane, vulgar comments personally directed at me, which were said well within the hearing range of young children in the crowd. I have never felt that I was doing the wrong thing, and in most of the cases, I was praised by the fans for my actions.