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Old Fri Sep 29, 2006, 01:31am
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Originally Posted by Forksref
We had these plays in a JV game this week (Fed):

1. Scrimmage kick on 4th down by K12 hits K70 in the butt, doesn't cross neutral zone and K12 picks it up and runs with it. Doesn't reach the line to gain. Legal run?

2. Block in the back in the endzone by A84, then A33 scores a touchdown. Enforcement, including basic spot?

3. During the return of a free kick, R55 blocks in the back, then K40 grabs the facemask in making the tackle. Enforcement?

4. Fumble by A15 recovered by B77 at the bottom of the pile. After spotting the ball for B's possession, L comes up and says A60 had it by himself on the ground (dead) and then B77 pulled it from him. Procedure?

5. On a run by A we have block in the back by A67, facemask on B32. After play is over, L (new to the position) tells R that he had B in the neutral zone prior to the snap. Enforcement/procedure?


Just a little mid-season pop quiz. I told the crew that the first half went too smoothly and that something was going to happen in the 2nd half. All the above plays occurred in a span of about 6 minutes on the clock in the 2nd half.
1. Yes. K may catch or recover any scrimmage kick behind the neutral zone and advance, regardless of whether it crossed the NZ.

2. More info needed. A's end zone or B's end zone? Running play or loose ball play? Assuming B's end zone: If LBP, enforce from previous spot. If running play, basic spot is end of run, therefore, enforce from goal line.

3. Both fouls happened after a change of possession, so if R wants to keep the ball, they must decline K's facemask foul and then R's foul is automatically accepted. If R accepts K's facemask foul, penalties offset, rekick.

4. Why wasn't L in there helping dig through the pile? L should have spoken up sooner. If you change your call now, get ready for an all-out s***-storm. Oh, and let L tell B's head coach what he saw personally. B's ball.

5. Wow, L is causing all sorts of trouble. Given the situation, I'd probably tell L to pick up his flag, then offset the other two penalties and replay the down. There isn't anything in the rulebook that really covers that situation, although I'm sure it's happened to everyone. I suppose you could say the play never happened and enforce the encroachment penalty, but that would also be a fun one to explain to the coach.
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