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Originally Posted by Tim C
BigUmp56 wrote:
"Coach of team A decides to enter Little Snot Nosed Billy in the top of the third inning. He brings the changes to the umpire who in turn gives the change to the coach of team B. B-coach looks at the name of the substitute and informs the umpire-in-cheif that the sub is ineligible because he was ejected in their last game and now has to serve a one game suspension. Now, the umpires duty is to go to coach A and inform him that the other team feels the sub in ineligible, explaining why, and that's it. The umpire isn't going to look for an ejection report or look over the book from team A's last game. He's not going to get involved beyond letting them know the player is potentially ineligible. If the coach of team A feels his player is eligible and goes ahead and enters him, the other coach needs to lodge a protest in the book, and we get the game going."
I would contend that even "Old Tee" would "kinda sorta" do this:
Common sense would lead me to believe that IF the offended team, in my example, came to me to protest that I would be required to give that information to both the official score book AND the offending team.
The Oregon School Activities Association agrees with be by precedent:
This spring we had the following occur:
In a game between Valley High and City High the Valley high coaching staff noticed an assistant coach in the dugout. While that was not an issue in itself the issue got deeper. That assistant coach had been ejected from a game the day before. The OSAA requires a one game suspension for ejections.
The Valley High coach went to the umpire to "protest" the coach in the dugout.
Our umpire informed the coach that the OSAA does not accept "protests" and that the coach in the dugout was a league or state level issue.
The game went on and Valley lost the game (BTW, a critical game in the league standings) however the Valley High Athletic Director contacted the OSAA the next day.
The Head Coach of City High called the OSAA the next morning to admit freely that he had allowed the assistant coach in the dugout.
The Executive Director of the OSAA declared a forfeit of the game by City High School.
In the letter it noted: "Although the OSAA does not allow protested games, and the umpires correctly refused to file the protest, the OSAA is responsible for the eligibilty of all participants."
So, in essence, I believe all umpires "nearly" follow the process that you have quoted above. It is, in big boy ball, an act of common sense rather than a directive from a rule book or umpire manual.
Regards,
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Like I said, I would take the protest. Part of that process is bringing it to the attention of the other team and letting them deal with it, if they so choose.
Where I differ with LLer is this: I will not offer my opinion on eligibility rules nor will I answer such a question, if asked. I'll tell the coach that eligibility rules are HIS concern and it's up to him how he wishes to address the protest. Then, we play.
I don't see it as being helpful if an umpire jumps into the middle of something where he has no place.