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Old Tue Aug 29, 2006, 06:37pm
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Poor Derrick - I think we've hijacked his thread slightly. I hope he's learning a little about mechanics anyway.

I've heard about Harry, but I've never had the pleasure of meeting him. But the comments about doing a mechanic different than the Fed. mechanic shows my point. He feels not bouncing the ball along the endline in the backcourt is important because officials aren't staying back. Valid point, but instead of teaching a different mechanic to the officials, how about just teaching them to stay back? How do we, outside the Chicago area, find out about this if we don't attend a camp where he is the clinician? Is there an "Illinois Mechanics Differences" booklet or paper somewhere? If I get the chance to do a game up in the suburbs sometime, and he happens to watch the game, would I get critiqued for not doing the way he teaches it in Illinois?
There is a PowerPoint Presentation that has in the past (I have not looked over in detail of the current one) that gives many of the procedures on the IHSA Education section. Also if guys are not going to clinics every year or going to meetings on a regular basis, then shame on them if they are out of the loop. It is not like all of these things I am talking about are just subjected to clinics or the Chicago area. If the clinicians in your area have been paying attention, I am sure they know of many of these procedures. I have heard many of these differences mentioned at local association meetings. I guess it would be possible that some of the leaders in your area have dropped the ball on these things. This is why we have clinics and many of the procedures are discussed there.

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Granted, this is a relatively minor mechanic we're talking about. But it does kind of illustrate my point about doing things differently, even within the same state. With the state requirement on only attending a clinic once every 3 years, it could be a while before a mechanic difference shows up all over the state. That doesn't even address philosophy differences, such as how a game will be called on the south side of Chicago, vs. a game in the west central part of the state. Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of trying to be uniform, and giving the kids a consistantly-called game, no matter where they go?
Well one of the reasons the games are called differently has a lot to do with what kind of games are in an area. There are many more Class AA games in this area and I would think there are more college officials in the area. When you do see who works the Class AA State Finals, most of the officials do happen to come from this part of the state. I have worked a Class A Regional as well, and most of the officials that were working it with me may not have even worked a game or two at the Class A level. I think there were only 2 or 3 regionals directly in this area. I do not think you will ever completely overcome those differences.

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
No easy answers, just thoughts running around my head. Obviously, if Harry tells you to do this, and you work for him, that is what you will do. But it just seems like Harry is doing what IAABO does, and each different state does, that is decide they like to do things a little differently than the Fed. It would be nice if we could all do it the same. I know, and I wish the Cubs would win a World Series in my lifetime as well...
As I stated before the NF takes the position that states can do whatever mechanics they choose to. These are mechanics, not rules issues. Also the NF does not include all areas of the game. There are many things the Official's Manual never clearly covers. So I have no problem with the IHSA using things that work. This is why they got rid of bouncing the ball on the end line.

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