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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
the trolling comment was lame. For some reason I thought you might could do better than that in a debate.
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Maybe it was lame... but it was in response to a pretty absurd stretch of someone else's point.
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The EVENT here is a INITIAL CALL, followed by ACTION, followed by a SECOND CALL on the original call. That is the total even. There isnt separate events, its all one event.
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Yes - it's all one event - but that point is irrelevant.
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All of the time used was perfectly legitimate.
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Second time you've brought this up. I don't know what the difference might be in your mind between legitimate and illegitimate time, but it is completely irrelevant. How a particular stretch of time is "used" has absolutely nothing to do with anything.
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The clock didnt stop after the initial call here anymore than it would at any other point in the game.
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Right - the clock doesn't ever stop. What's your point?
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You're changing a running clock simply because of the time remaining. We dont roll back a clock/stop the clock at ANY OTHER point because of an appeal/help/overturned call.. yet you are making the argument we do so just because of time remaining. thats inconsistent.
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I'm making no such argument. I'm not suggesting we roll back anything. (Perhaps this misunderstanding of my point is what led you to the statement that I labelled trolling earlier). The clock doesn't stop. So what.
What matters is two things:
1) An inning begins IMMEDIATELY after the 3rd out of an inning occurs.
2) The third out occurs when it occurs, not when it's called.
Very simple really. In the OP, the 3rd out OCCURRED before time expired. No clock rolling required - when did the out occur is the ONLY question you need worry yourself about.