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Originally Posted by Carl Childress
Sorry. You couldn't say anything that would be more wrong.
The Times is the newspaper of record in the USA, and their stance on current issues is progressive, intelligent, and well-supported.
The only place they have lost credibilithy is where they never had it, with the right-wing, your protestation to the contrary notwithstanding, as the cliche goes.
Take a look even at the rags you're fond of. EVERYBODY quotes the Times.
BTW: Could you give a source for your figures on the decline of the Times?
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Progressive is just a fancy word for "really, really liberal." I live in the Berkeley of the Midwest and our afternoon paper is called "progressive." It editorializes on the front page without apology. I subscribe cause it only costs an extra $5 a month and it gives me a good laugh in the afternoon.
If the Times is the paper of record and their stance is "well-supported" why did the Republican win the 2004 presidential election? I mean, the Times endorsed Kerry.