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Originally posted by Mark Dexter
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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
BTW - does anyone know why repeated violations of 9-2-9/10 are a T? These are violations by the thrower which cause a turnover. No loss of advantage (as there is when the defender breaks the plane). Why is there a need on these particular violations to render an extra penalty? Coach is going to run their butt off in practice the next day anyway if they keep screwing up. That and the turnover should be penalty enough!
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I think this is similar to the T for repeated disconcertion. If the kids are doing this on every throw-in, and it seems like the only purpose is to hold up the game and make a travesty of it, a T can be assessed.
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Mark
Thanks for your thoughts - you gave me two possibilities that I hadn't considered. Unfortunately, I don't think either of them are why this rule is here. (but I remain at a loss to explain it myself - so I am open to more takers on this one!)
Repeated disconcertion affects the shooter and may cause problems on other free throws, i.e., shooters begin to anticipate being disconcerted, and thus are disconcerted when attempting every free throw. Your theory on making a travesty of the game is interesting to consider, but I don't think it's the reason either. First, there are many ways a travesty can be made of a game and this violation is not specifically cited as an example of such activity. If travesty was the reason, the rule would probably reference it, e.g., "repeated violations of 9-2-9 to the point that it makes a travesty of the game." Plus, there is no need for a specific rule related to throw-ins because the travesty rule already covers this problem and this is a bizarre and rather unlikely way to make a travesty of the game.
Again, the 9-2-9/10 inbounds provision for a T is the only T for a violation that I can think of where the offending team is already penalized and the other team does not have a clear potential loss of advantage from the violation. Any other thoughts as to why this provision exists?