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Originally Posted by Dave Hensley
So you're going with rulebook literal, eh? Then I suggest you read the different rulebook references to batter runner at first base, and other runners on force plays. It's not consistent. Some references endorse the "same time = out," and others reduce, literally read, to "same time = safe."
You could look it up.
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Read it, been there, done that. I don't subscribe to the contradictory rule theory. I use 7.08(e), 7.01, and 6.05(j) for my "Runner is out" decisions:
7.08(e) - Any runner is out when he fails to touch the next base
before a fielder tags him or the base, after he has been forced to advance by reason of the batter becoming a runner.
Rule 7.01 says basically the same thing: A runner aquires the right to an unoccupied base when he touches it
before he's out.
Rule 6.05(j) says pretty much the same thing too, in dealing with the B/R: A batter is out when after a third strike or after he hits a fair ball, he or first base is tagged
before he touches first base. (I find the distinction so minute, and not at all contradictory, that it still requires the runner to beat the play.)
So, to summarize: A runner is out if he does not clearly beat the play. A runner is safe, if he acquires the base before he is out, and he's out if he fails to acquire the base before he or the base is tagged.