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Originally Posted by ggk
thanks for the insight.
can someone cite the applicable rule in FED, NCAA and OBR ?
while I am on board with Dave's interpretation, I am having a tough time convincing any of my recent partners that this is the correct ruling. they all seem to want to use a very liberal use of the idea of the ball "passing" a fielder and no one else having a chance to make a play. in their minds the ball could be 10- 20 ft to the right of the 1st baseman and if the 2nd baseman cannot make a play (ie. he is covering 2nd on an attempted steal) the runner is not out if he is hit.
thanks.
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Again this is not a difficult rule. I checked by BRD to make sure I didn't miss a new interpretation but FED and OBR are in sync with this rule.
FED 8-4-2k and OBR 7.09m
NCAA in 2004 made a slight change as the BRD notes "to clarify and be consistent with the professional rules".
So basically in FED or OBR the
runner is out if a ball hits him after passing fielder but another fielder can make a play.
For NCAA a
runner is NOT out if the runner is hit after the passes a fielder period.
And then of course at all levels if a batted ball is
touched by a fielder and then hits the runner, the runner is never out (unless it is intentional interference; however he must avoid a second fielder making a play on a batted ball.
So in your play, once the ball passes the fielder, he is okay and not going to be out since F4 did not have a play on the ball.
Thanks
David