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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 06:27pm
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
At the HS level or below, you issue the technical foul. That is what the NFHS wants and the HS game is an extension of the classroom. The coach has to be a teacher in that environment and conduct himself accordingly.
Maybe where you work, but not everyone would agree that is the only action. I would check with your local assignor for guidance if you have to call this. My personal opinion is to ignore this unless everyone in the gym can hear the coach. Then just have a quick word and move on. Do not penalize the kids because a coach cannot control themselves for a moment with his/her own team.

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Asking NCAA officials about this for guidance is useless. They operate in a different environment. NCAA basketball has become a business. The schools use it as a moneymaker, not as a teaching experience and the last thing that they care about is language used by their coaches.

Sadly sportsmanship is fading away quickly at the D1 level and the focus on money is to blame.
If someone is going to a college camp, these are the very people that are going to give some guidance. Not everyone is just working HS and depending on the level of this camp, you better listen to the people that have been working at the higher levels. BTW, D1 officiating sets the trend for what happens at other levels of college officiating and HS officiating as well.

Do you really think the editor of the NF Basketball Rulebook is not influenced by college officiating?

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
The best advice that I could give is to not act like a college official in a HS game, act like an NFHS official. Save conducting yourself as a college official for when you are in an NCAA game.
I think that is terrible advice. First of all you do not know what kind of camp that mopar60 is going to. Even the one HS camp I am attending this summer has several D1 officials influencing the way officiating goes at the camp and what is taught at that camp. Also this camp is run by the head of basketball officials in the State of Illinois (and he is a former D1 official). Secondly what starts at the college level tends to rolls down hill in many situations. Of course not all things come from the college ranks, but many of the philosophies and practices are being plucked right from the college ranks (no bird-dogging, table side foul switching and team control signal and rules just to name a few). And I can tell you the way I communicate with coaches and players is directly from the college philosophy and what I have learned at college camps. I have never had a single HS assignor give a damn about what I or others do as it relates to a college philosophy when calling a game. This might be also why I and other officials who work college tend to work further and further in the post season with a college officiating background and quicker as compared to the HS only official. Please do not take this as a personal attack, I just think what you are saying is really bad advice and totally inaccurate.

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