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Originally posted by zebraman
The original post gives no indication that B tried to stop. Are we really going to expect a ref to say, "well, after the severe contact, I thought B tried to stop?" How do I judge that? "No foul coach, as A was falling to the floor, I thought I saw a hint of regret on B's face."
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I agree, the orignal post doesn't say. That's why I gave two scenarios. I gave an example of B1 staying with A1 (probably didn't try to stop there, boss) and B1 getting left in the dust as A1 goes in for layup. Either of these may have happened in the scenario as stated. If it is the former, you got a foul by rule. If it is the latter, sounds like A got what they wanted and B1's intent is relatively irrelevant. Something in between, the call is in your hands, my friend.
I am sorry you have trouble determining intent. But the rules clearly say "attempts to stop" (NF's words, not mine), so I guess you get paid to make that determination. I for one will be very upset if you take away every one of my blind screen layups because of severe contact that is permissible by rule. On the other hand, all my players' parents will love you, because they think all contact is a foul on the other team.
It appears that you believe being knocked to the floor is excessive contact. I believe that severe contact is exactly that, severe. It will often result in bodies bouncing in many directions, sometimes to the floor. But more than one rule in the book says that contact can be severe and remain incidental to the play.