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Originally Posted by rainmaker
I know, I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying I think it's a good thing to have an intermediate call between the basic foul and the flagrant. I just wish it were called something else. I mean why not an "excessive" foul, or "excessive contact" foul? If it had a different signal, and a different name, the penalty could still be the same, but there would be less explaining.
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Ok, understood. Of course, if you had written it this way the first time, I would have grasped your meaning better.
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Originally Posted by rainmaker
Using the intentional foul for "excessive contact" is a good call when a FLAGRANT seems unwarranted, but the kid was really reckless or hostile. I wish they'd find a different name for it. It's can hard to explain that while the contact wasn't intentional as in deliberate, the book gives us this call for excessive contact.
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You might be interested to know that there used to be a hard contact signal a few years back. That consisted of the intentional foul signal and then moving the X downward in front of the body. I don't know if this was ever an official NFHS signal, but I believe that it was an NCAA signal. Some of the folks who have been around for a while and worked NCAA ball in the past could fill you in better.