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Originally Posted by PWL
WAY TO LIE SDS.......
FED RULE 8-2-4 reads...if a fair or foul batted ball is caught, other than a foul tip, each base runner shall touch his base after the batted ball has touched the fielder.
TOUCH....To touch a player or umpire is to touch any part of his body, his clothing or his equipment.
Now back to the subject at hand. Fielder touches fly ball in fair territory and it hits the ground. No tag up is necessary. Fielder touches fly ball in foul territory and ball hit ground, it is just a strike, runner cannot advance. According to the rule book 7.08(d) he can only advance when the ball is caught. Too many people are trying to merge the definition of a catch into a completely different situation altogether.
Where does 7.10(a) have anything to do with this?
Does not anybody think with 237 errors (or more) in the rules of baseball, you could be looking at least two of them.
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Where did I lie? I copied that whole thing word for word from the BRD. Do you mean that Carl is lying? Then call him a liar.
7.10(a) is listed there along with the touch requirements just to illustrate the inconsistency in the language of the rule, just like you are saying about the errors in the book. In that there are errors, we agree. But there are interpretations in place that specify which rule to go by.
Carl goes on to say, in touch requirements, to just go by rule 2.00 Catch: Comment 1, which states that on
any fly ball, the runners can leave their bases
as soon as the first fielder TOUCHES the ball!!!
That is the ruling to use in all fly ball situations. Do you get that?