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Originally Posted by Dakota
Yes. I read your example #1 being that the PU called TIME and did NOT call the OUT. That is ONE situation where Mike would have the umpire do just that (if I understand his position correctly).
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No, Mike (and SP in general) would still want the ump to wait for the runner to give up moving.
I guess I better clarify that other topic with :
"the umpire paid attention and did not kill the play prematurely, so she was out!. Not lookibg for a "gotcha", just applying the rule to a true case of its intent. "