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Old Sun Jun 25, 2006, 11:29pm
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Okay, I play along with you that you''re the owner of the Dallas Mavericks. Obviously, I have no way of knowing whether you are or not. Just as obviously, I have to doubt it. But I'll humor you.

its me

First, this is an officiating site. Those who come here and present plays and ask for interpretations will get a correct rulling. Posters who come here to complain about offficiating and how their team was robbed get destroyed. This is our forum. We hear enough of that $hit from fans who don;t know the rules when we're on the floor. We don't have to listen to it here and we won't. Those posters are referred to as fanboys.

understood

Second, the NBA officials are the best basketball officials in the world. Evenso, they make mistakes. Every officials who blows a whistle makes mistakes. They aren't perfect, none of us are. The first perfect game has yet to be officiated, played or coached.

The top ones are, not all. The top 60 arent the top 60 in the world. But they should be. This isnt a knock on the officials or the effort they put in. Its a slam of the hiring and training practices.



Third, a foul in basketball is the most subjective call in sports, with soccer obviously a close second. It's in the eye of the beholder, within the established standards. Consistency can only extend to a certain point. I don;t buy into the conspriacy theory. I believe just as many calls are missed/made on one end as the other. The number of FTs taken doesn't dick. Styles of play, strategy and other issues alter that number. It's a poor way to examinate officiating.

You never heard a word from me comparing number of free throws taken. Nor the number of fouls. i dont buy into the conspiracy theory either. I think over a course of years, the calls even out. In the course of several games, it depends on how evenly matched the 2 teams are and who the officials are. Not all officials are equally good. the disparity can be large. Thats a problem in the NBA.




Finally, The NBA Finals, Mark Cuban and the Dallas Mavericks. You, Don Nelson, and Avery Johnson have done a tremendous job building the team. However, during the Finals, you were the story, not your team. You took the focus off them. While I'm 100% sure you're not an idiot, as I have said you certainly act like one at the games. Perhaps it would be good to separate owner and fan. You gave your guys an excuse to lose. "It's the refs fault. Blame on the refs!"


I wont tell you how to be a ref. If you think the headlines you see, or the 1 minute segments you watch reflect reality, well then...I might as well tell you how to officiate. Our team didnt use any excuses. Our team didnt blame the games on the refs.

Everyone saw what they saw. They saw me get pissed at Derosa for being out of position and missing a crucial call. It happens. you didnt see a single player complain to the officials. You saw me and AJ question calls that were questionable.

You are right, officials miss calls. And officials can hit sour stretches. The best ones dont. Some do. enough said there.





Josh Howard knows damn well he called a timeout. He asked for it, put his hands together and started moving toward the bench. He had a Chris Webber look on his face if there's ever been one. If he didn't want a timeout, he should have been screaming at the top of his lungs. But he didn't becasue he knew he had screwed up. But the next day, he's full of stories.

No he didnt. Watch the tape. Watch it 10 times. Watch every timeout called in the nba this year. In none of them will you see a player make the timeout signal WITHOUT looking at and at least trying to get the attention of the official. Particularly in a game where the arena is loud. It NEVER happens. You couldnt find a single instance in the NBA where a timeout was given where some sort of contact wasnt made with the official. Josh never spoke to, tapped on a shoulder, or even looked at any of the officials. Josh says it. The tape confirms it.

What he was trying to do is confirm with AJ what to do. Again, you couldnt hear anything in the building, it was too loud. He couldnt just shout over. How else would he confirm with his coach to make sure he understoo what he wanted ? (and no, you cant cover every instance in a huddle before hand, and good for josh for wanting to confirm it anyway). so he walked towards the coach making the Timeout sign and AJ made the timeout sign back. Happens all the time.

mistake by the officials .The fact that the league issued a statement to contrary, well look at the tape again and make your own decisions.


You wanted a foul on Wade for that little bit of contact? Were you an NBA fan when Jordan was still dominating? In playoff series against the Pacers, Reggie Miller shoved jordan all the way to the division line, caught the inbounds pass and hit a game winning 3. There was 10 times the contact on that play than there was on the Wade-Terry play. It's not a foul. BTW, that's not Joe DeRosa's call from the lead position.

dont start with relative calls from 10 years ago. Thats fanboy material. '

And no, it was Salvatores call. Its Derosas job to rotate to get an angle when so match action is happening out of his primary. He stood there. Staring at the action.



It's the name of the game these days. Blame the refs. World cup, Super Bowl, NBA Finals, youth league baseball, HS football, it makes no difference. People like yourself, people of position and power, just make it worse.

That's my point of view. Best of luck next year.
In this area, you have no idea what you are talking about. I got fined for saying that we should use the best refs in the playoffs, not use the playoffs as a means of promoting refs (37 of 60 refs officiated in the playoffs this year).

Blame the refs. no. You dont see me blaming joe or danny crawford or javie Even Bavetta. They all called GREAT games. GREAT GREAT games.

Not everyone is up to their standards.

Thats a shame, because with the resourcesavailable to the NBA, we could get the rest of the staff far, far closer.


have you ever tried to make it to the NBA ? talked to those who have ?

Do you realize there are about 10x as many officials in the NBA that have called Belmont vs Winthrop as Duke vs UNC ? Why do you think that is ?

Im curious from to hear about it from someone in the business ?
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