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Old Thu Jun 15, 2006, 07:56pm
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I wasn't aware that ASA distinguished between continuous and relaxed action.

For example, I posted this play years ago and was willing to accept the answer:

Bases loaded, 2 out. Batter rolls an infield single toward 3B, and everybody moves up a base. As F5 picks up the ball, and without time out, the runner who ran to 2B then runs halfway back to 1B to pick up his hat. F5 throws to 2B and gets the out on the force the runner reinstated by retreating toward his last occupied base.

The answer was that the third out force play would nullify the run, because in ASA this is all one continuous play until the ball becomes dead. The proferred advice was that the umpire, when he sees what might happen, should call time out in the spirit of preventive umpiring.

The following play seems to me similar in principle to Play A in the original post:

Tie score, bottom 7th, no outs. Abel on 3B, Baker on 2B, Charles on 1B, Daniels gets an apparent single to left. Abel scores, Baker runs to 3B and then runs directly into the dugout to celebrate. Charles runs to 2B and then runs directly into the dugout to celebrate. Then Daniels stops a few feet in front of 1B, turns around, and runs into the dugout to celebrate. The defense, still on the field, appeals that Daniels never touched 1B. (Or maybe you wouldn't even need an appeal. Make it that Daniels rounded 1B but missed it.)

I have Baker and Charles out for entering the bench area, and the subsequent third out on Daniels nullifies Abel's run.

The point is that as long as there's a possibility of an inning-ending appeal out that nullifies a run, the runners are still in jeopardy.
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