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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Again, we use many of these phrases all the time, and most of us know what they mean and to apply them. There are the officials that mis-use them to justify not making calls. And I'm kind of in the camp that feels adv/disadv applies more to fouls than violations.
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I agree with you, advantage/disadvantage applies far more to fouls than violations, and I'm not advocating ignoring the obvious stuff. I think the point that I am trying to make is that we shouldn't narrowly focus on getting every single violation, or in other words, go out there looking for travels.
In terms of the illegal screen you mentioned, that's not what I meant by "no effect on the play." If there's an elbow or a player gets clearly chucked off his path, that's a foul and should be called, regardless of it the ball's on the other side. Retaliation and problems with the game will follow if you don't get that. I was talking more about marginal screens that don't really impact the defender's path. Another good example is handchecking, I think we look for handchecks and kill plays way too early by not giving the offense a chance to play through and make a play.
My point isn't that we should ignore off ball fouls or violations, but simply that we shouldn't be out looking for them. Just call them when they're obvious and they present themselves and/or cause an advantage/disadvantage. While there are many officials who will use the phrases as excuses for missing a call, there are just as many who ruin games by hunting for and finding an excuse to blow the whistle needlessly and becoming irritants. That is why I don't agree with the philosophy of looking to "get" the travels and carries but subscribe to the philosophy that we should get them when they're obvious.