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Originally Posted by WhatWuzThatBlue
Others choose to follow the thought that the ball simply has to pass over the plate - IOW, nip a corner.
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That's a different issue, and one with which I would not take issue. When that happens, the ball is in the strike zone during it's time over the plate. The pitch I referred to take the bottom of the knee at the front and is down and out of the zone from that point. Touching, versus passing.
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Saying that MLB umpires don't call strikes that require a catcher to get his mitt dirty is erroneous.
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Again, this can be different than what I was addressing, a ball taking dirt before it got to the catcher.
The only time I've seen a MLB umpire call a pitch in the dirt a strike is when the catcher was crossed up and had to reach for it to one side or another, not between him and the plate. This year, I have not even seen that called a strike so far, but I only watch about six games a week and I know there is a lot of game I don't see.