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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Great! We can continue to discuss it. Then please explain why you would grant a timeout in one situation and not in another.
SITUATION 1 - During the first of two FTs, Coach A asks Dan_ref for a timeout after the second FT, if it is made. There is no team control or player control and the ball is live when the request is made.
SITUATION 2 - While the ball is rolling around on the floor, Coach A asks Dan_ref for a timeout, if one of his players gets the ball. There is no team control or player control and the ball is live when the request is made.
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Tony, we did discuss it & I answered your questions even before you posted them.
Here is exactly what I said, word for word including typos, which includes my reasoning:
FWIW2, when I can't grant a request per rule during a loose ball etc I do ask "still want it" when the the coach's team takes control of the ball. Often enough this is a gut reaction by the coach, or even a premediated attempt to get a TO when he knows it's not to be granted by rule. When a coach asks prematurely and conditionally for a TO (ie requests on the make when a shot/FT is in the air) I grant it without re-asking on the make. He's a big boy, I'm assuming he knows what he wants in this case.
As someone else said, it's just what I do. If you feel the need to do differently then do so.
It doesn't get any clearer than that, IMO. And in passing we even discussed the nf & ncaa rules regarding this sitch. Some of us believe the wording is loose enough to permit this. You disagreeing does not make the words any clearer.